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Aug 14, 2009 2:00pm EDT
to arrive in montana for a town hall event, ready to challenge what he calls myths about his health care reform effort. white house officials tell me prospects are changing right now, but not in the way you think. i'll talk with white house health care czar about that, about president obama's deal with companies and the strategy after the august recess. >>> have the town hall gathering forced them to back away from the death panels? are republicans like sarah palin winning or losing? and does the president still have the communications mojo to make this work. i'll talk with paul krugman. >>> good day. i'm john harwood of cnbc and "the new york times." this is "the new york times special edition." on the front page this hour, president obama expected to arrive any moment in montana. at the end of this hour, he'll be holding his second town hall meeting on health care this week. you can see it here on msnbc. he'll hold another one tomorrow in colorado. he's trying once again to sell his plan to the people concerned about big government and price tags. no better place for that than big sky
MSNBC
Aug 14, 2009 3:00pm EDT
know, growing up here in montana, wlerned values like hard work and common sense, also the difference between right and wrong. and it's just plain wrong for insurance companies to devalue coverage when you get sick and need it the most. and it's just plain wrong for insurance companies to deny people of care because of preexisting conditions. and that's why we're working so hard to craft a common sense plan that is right for our state and right for america. here in montana, we also know the value of an honest word. and let me tell you, there's plenty of dishonesty out there about what health care reform will or will not do. now, you've all seen the tv show, "myth busters," right? well, i've been going around the state busting myths about health care. whether it's bogus information about rationing care, cutting benefits for seniors or -- doctor and patient relationship, these outrageous myths are being questioned -- >> it appears that we're returning into technical problems at this town hall meeting in montana. it's gallatin field airport hangar. david schuster is still with me, but in
MSNBC
Aug 14, 2009 6:00pm EDT
. he was all hat and plenty of cattle. the governor of montana will join me in just a moment. plus, the dumber than joe the plumber crazies are ratcheting up the madness. congressman adam schiff, he drew a crowd of 3,000 people to his town hall. he'll join me to talk about it at the bottom of the hour, what he ran into. >>> the newster's got a six-point battle plan for caribou barbie. newt, i got one for you too, number seven. sarah, stop lying to people about how the death panel's going to be wiping out the senior citizen population in america. stephen a. smith is in the houston night. the national football league and the philadelphia eagles a have decided to give michael vick a second chance. are you ready to give michael vick a second chance? get your cell phones out right now and text "a" for yes and "b" for no to 622639. we'll have a big discussion on this tonight. all that, and of course the drugster is back in "psycho talk." "daily show" co-creator lizz winstead weighs in on the edwards baby daddy drama. it will be a dandy. >>> first tonight's "op ed." all right, the preside
MSNBC
Aug 14, 2009 4:00pm EDT
with a cowboy hat, absolutely. you've got a little plaque on there. >> montana ambassadors. we're business advisory group appointed by the governor. we've served three republican and two democratic governors and i'd like to welcome you on behalf of the montana ambassadors. >> thank you so much. you make a great ambassador. >> thank you. my question, and i'm glad you called on me, it has to do with the cobra question because i'm in the building materials business. i own a lumberyard in a beautiful little town of 1,000 people about 40 miles southwest of here, innes, and i was -- when the economy took a nose dive, i was forced to take my workforce from 11 people to 6, and i'm one of, like most employers in america, i want to provide. i think it's my responsibility to provide health insurance. you like to take care of our peeps, so to speak. >> [ inaudible ]. >> so i went searching for replacement coverage for employees that went off only to find out that cobra doesn't apply to me because i have less than 20 employees and that conservatively affects 80% of all workers in montana. so they were
MSNBC
Aug 14, 2009 6:00am EDT
in a second. we understand this town hall meeting in montana today for president obama could be a little more rowdy, as you put it on politico than the new hampshire one. why? >> willie, when "morning joe" talks, the white house perks up, if we can continue our talk analogies here. >> sure. >> what did joe, what did chuck todd, what did pat buchanan say yesterday? they said the president would have been better off at that town hall this week if the president had answereded critics, had taken tough questions. it's not like president obama would be thrown off his script by some dude standing up in a town hall. so for this afternoon's montana edition, the white house gave out their tickets a little differently. instead of giving the tickets to supporters or more care-free controlled, they went to two town halls in montana and gave them out on a first served -- first curve -- that will ultimately be the question. first come first served basis so it may be a little more tougher questioning this time for colorado. in a day or two the president will go back to the white house method of ticketing. 1,
MSNBC
Aug 14, 2009 10:00pm EDT
for today's town hall in belgrade, montana. it will be important to see montanans come out in force to say no to government health care. a member of patients first told the associated press yesterday. some 1,300 people got inside after first come first serve ticket giveout at two city halls. one of those people a welder named randy rathi had driven almost all the way across montana to get tickets so he could confront president. here is what happened when a real working joe from a state that represents the real america expressed his real concerns about real health care reform to his president. >> my name is randy rathie. i'm from ekolaka, montana and as you can see, aim a proud nra member. [ cheering ] >> i believe in our constitution. >> yeah. >> and it's a very important thing. i also get my news from the cable networks because i don't like the spin that comes from them other places. >> oh, you got to be careful about them cable networks, though. but that's okay. go ahead. go ahead with your question. >> max bachus our senator has been locked up in a dark room there for months now trying
MSNBC
Aug 25, 2009 3:00pm EDT
with montana democrats. and now the denver post one of the largest papers in the mountain region is calling for a public option, saying it's the only way to bring about real reform. it it's the best way to slow escalating health care costs and expand access to quality care. the country ultimately will lose if the public option vanishes because of the democratic's best effort to reform health care. what's going on with max baucus. >> i think we'll feel the impact of that editorial, we have got a lot of congressional elections here that are going to be contested. congressman john salazar is up for a tough election. becky mary up for a tough election and i think you'll see the republican editorial peace sup for debate. they have said that they conc t conceptually support a public option. but you never know what's going to happen in the negotiation. in relation to max baucus, a new poll came out showing that the democrats in montana, quite a small state are extremely unhappy with baucus on the issue of health care and baucus who said he strongly supports a public option, but has subsequently -
MSNBC
Aug 4, 2009 11:00am EDT
for break they are about to take stock of where the priorities stand. jon tester of montana joins us. good to see you. >> good to be on and congratulations on the show, carlos. i'm a big fan. >> thank you very much. very much appreciated. i understand for all of the focus on health care that you've actually been focused on a very different issue related to general motors, the large car company. you want to share a little bit what seems to be a pretty strong piece of frustration on your part? >> absolutely, carlos. what has gone on is gm who took $50 billion of bailout money has decided to go to a bankruptcy court and cancel a contract with the stillwater mine that provides them with the material that goes into catalytic converters which makes the cars burn cleaner so the air is cleaner that comes out of the exhaust. >> to be clear, that's a mine in montana? >> that's a mine in montana. the only specific mine in the united states. they said we're getting the palladium from russia or south america. when they came to the banking committee, gm i'm talking about, a year and a half ago, they sai
MSNBC
Aug 14, 2009 1:00pm EDT
to montana, the obama family is on their way to montana right now, where this afternoon the president will be holding a town hall meeting, another town hall meeting to try to sell his plan, what he calls selling the myths of what has been said by the opposition about the plan. it's the big story at the white house. let's bring in nbc news white house correspondent, savannah guthrie. savannah, have they figured out another way to get their message across? it hasn't worked so far, to their satisfaction, or anyone else's. >> reporter: well, look, they know they have a problem. the polls show it, clearly. numerous polls show that support for health care reform is dropping. so what they're trying to do is one thing they have always done, which is put the president out there. they've refined the message. today's town hall will focus on yet another insurance reform, focusing on what around here they call rescissions, which is the practice of insurance companies when they drop people when they become sick. so that will be the focus of the town hall. we've seen kind of some different stuff on
MSNBC
Aug 13, 2009 6:37pm EDT
for that reason, too. >>> the president's going to go on the road tomorrow, a town hall meeting in montana, max bachus's backyard. if there was ever a time to call out a colleague and not giving the president what he wants, it would be max backus. what's the mission here? >> the mitts is none too subtle. carol lee tomorrow on politico is reporting that the tickets will be given out for the president's town hall on health care in a little different way, first come, first served, which means there could be more dissent and a little more excitement. people have said the president is good at asking questions, he should go ahead and take the tough questions, nobody is going to rattle him, and he doesn't get tagged with the suggestion he does, that the questions were too easy, because the people were screaming, so maybe a little excitement tomorrow night in montana. >> thanks, mike. mike allen from politico tonight with us on "the ed show." >>> what is your church doing about health care? anything? i'm calling on the leadership of the christian community to explain to me where they stand, and when it
MSNBC
Aug 15, 2009 11:00am EDT
? what's going on? >> hey, this is montana, big sky country. beautiful resort here that the president is staying at. and they've got all sorts -- a very family-friendly resort here, lots of places for kids to enjoy. it's actually where i -- >> that's not where you're staying. >> no, but that's where -- well, you're right, but that's where i stayed last night, slept in a teepee. >> i did not, discuss really? you're just pulling my leg. but there are places where you can. that's kind of rustic of you, chuck. >> i'm sure they are, but not here. it's hard to imagine a place with the "resort" in its name -- >> nick is saying you are so done with this. bye, chuck todd. >> reporter: bye, see you tomorrow. >>> you can watch the town hall live at 6:15 p.m. eastern. >>> the first named storm of the 2009 atlantic hurricane season is taking shape at this hour. bill karins is tracking ana for us and more. what's the latest? >> as expected we now have two systems. we have ana and now tropical depression number three. i'm more concerned with tropical depression number three an i am with ana. there's
MSNBC
Aug 16, 2009 7:00am EDT
slipping, president obama hit the road again this time in belgrade, montana. the crowd was much friendlier than those rowdy town halls we have seen, but the president finally did get a couple of questions that were not complete softballs. chuck todd joins us in a moment from montana. plus, you know those end of life counsel prognosis visions in the health care bills which republicans, like sarah palin, have distorted into death panels? it turns out republicans were actually for end of life counseling before they were against it. that's just one of the inconsistencies we'll discuss with republican john culbertsoc. >> and how far has he fallen? there is a report that john edwards is about to finally admit he is the father of his mistress's child? where would he be if edwards had not been so wisely dejected by wise democratic voters last year. >> and bill clinton has some tough words on the networks crowd on don't ask don't tell. >> and what does it mean to be palinized? ask one who says it could easily happen to her. the definition coming up on the hardball side show. >>> first president oba
MSNBC
Aug 14, 2009 11:00am EDT
in montana and another one tomorrow in colorado. >>> in washington, it's damage control. the white house downplays reports it made an $80 billion back room deal with drugmakers. >>> spilling secrets. why is the man known for keeping secrets now penning his own tell-all? is cheney trying to score or settle with his former boz president bush? >>> good morning, everyone. i'm carlos watson. terrific hour coming to you. republicans strategist kevin madden and sarah taylor and laura tyson and plus we talk to the filmmakers behind hbo new documentary "the fixer." and savannah guthrie at the white house and prime time ed shultz is joining us in the studio. here are the top headlines. nbc news obtained dramatic video of the air collision over the hudson river. it's incredibly disturbing to watch. a warning to people. it captured the moment where a plane and helicopter collided and killed all nine board. >>> a final farewell to eunice shriver kennedy. friends and family are gathered today in massachusetts to say good-bye to the 88-year-old humanitarian who is most notably associated with the found
MSNBC
Aug 14, 2009 5:00pm EDT
for health care reform slipping, president obama hit the road again. this time in belgrade, montana. the crowd was much friendlier than those rowdy town halls we've seen from members of congress, but the president finally did get a couple of questions that were not complete softballs. chuck todd joins us in a moment from montana. >>> plus, you know those end of life counseling provisions in the health care bills which republicans like sarah palin have distorted into death panels? well, it turns out that republicans like sarah palin were actually for end of life counseling before they were against it. that's just one of the inconsistencies we'll discuss with an opponent of reform, republican congressman john culberson of texas joining us in a moment. >>> also, how far has he fallen? 24r is a report that john edwards is about to finally admit that he is, indeed, the father of his mistress' child. so where would we be if edwards had not been so decisively rejected by wise democratic primary voters last year? >>> plus, bill clinton has some tough words for the netroots crowd on don't as
MSNBC
Aug 15, 2009 7:00am EDT
hampshire or the one yesterday in montana. i think they would like to see a little more pushback from critics and people who are concerned that we are seeing at town hall meetings. it allows the president to explain better to someone who is skeptical about what health care reform would mean for them. >> let's check out one of the more heated moments in yesterday's town hall and the president's reaction. take a look. >> we keep getting the bum. that's all we get, is bull. you can't tell us how you are going to pay for this. the only way you are going to get that money is to raise our taxes. that's the only way you can do that. >> i'm happy to answer the question. >> thank you. >> you are absolutely right, that i can't cover another 46 million people for free. >> how to grade the president on his town hall so far, the way he has handled the tougher questions? >> i think he has done exceptionally well. he has talked about health care for the past, i think you could say, probably six weeks or so, almost nonstop every day. here was a tough question from squun w someone who is skeptical tha
MSNBC
Aug 24, 2009 6:00pm EDT
there in montana. 47% of the people in montana want a public health insurance plan. 43% oppose it. that's according to a new research 2000 poll. this proves healthcare reform is not just a liberal issue. it's harder to find a redder state than montana. a lot of guns up there. plus baucus has got problems with the democratic base. 55% of montana democrats disapprove of his handling of healthcare. baucus is feeling the heat from lefties. he was getting hammered on a conference call with democrats last monday night and wound up saying, "i want a public option too." very interesting. now we know baucus likes the public option because he put it out at his healthcare playbook back in november after the election. he did that. so that's a position, a flip, and a flip. okay. so what's changed? the town hall nuts are making their knees shaky? is that what's going on? or is it all the industry money in the pockets? speaking of industry money, ken conrad, north dakota senator, chairman of the senate budget committee and wone of the gang f six, or musketeers of six on the finance committee. he's pushing the cra
MSNBC
Aug 24, 2009 6:00am EDT
-election at all. his polls are way down out in montana and this is a somewhat embattled figure within washington. this is someone that a lot of democrats just don't trust. a lot of republicans don't trust and -- >> why don't they trust him? why don't they trust him? is it because he doesn't -- i mean, does he go back on his word or is he just a guy who doesn't play sides? >> i think he's a guy -- i think probably more the latter. i think, you know, he was for the bush tax cuts in 2001. he had to deal with chuck grassley last year and then he sort of turned around and supported the democrats on a key medicare bill last summer. he does sort of play both sides of the fence which i guess is smart if you want to get re-elected every six years in montana but, again, he seemed shell-shocked by the whole situation now. i saw him in a town hall meeting. he was actually surrounded by youtubes as he called him, which i think he meant cameras. no, it's true. there are even people with youtubes in the audience and i was like, whoa. he said i think i meant cameras but, anyway, i put it in my story. it went vi
MSNBC
Aug 15, 2009 8:00am EDT
remarks. thanks very much. >> thanks a lot, alex. >>> the first family made time in montana for some whitewater rafting. today they are touring national parks in yellowstone, wyoming and grand junction, colorado. in addition to the president's town hall at precisely 6:15 p.m. eastern time. chuck todd is traveling with the president and he will join us with a live report in just a little bit. >>> seven people are dead, 91 injured after a suicide car bombing at nato's military headquarters in afghanistan. it happened in the capital city of kabul in a heavily guarded neighborhood. it comes five days before the presidential election. thetal l taliban has claimed responsibility. the blast was the first major attack since february. >> and do look at this video from china. the flooding is as you can see literally watching the homes away. not only causing landslides, but they destroyed roads and burst the river banks. according to cctv, china's state owned news channel, up to 11 are dead, two people are injured. >>> well, police in georgia confirm that a missing woman's cell phone has been f
MSNBC
Aug 15, 2009 9:00am EDT
or probably already have gotten a phone call saying you have a ticket, come pick it up. with the montana one yesterday, they did that one a little bit differently, they handed tickets out for about a two hour window and it was first come first serve and individuals could get up to two tickets, meaning you don't know who the second ticket was going to go to. >> kind of fun to wake occupy a saturday morning and go what are you doing today? i don't know. i'm going go hear the president. it is kind of cool. although do you it every day. >> reporter: one quick thing on that front. you see criticisms saying he's only got supporters. guess what? his supporters will be more motivated to wait in line and stay up late to make sure they get a ticket probably who are so than opponents. >> and you have point. chuck todd, thank you so much. >>> you can watch the president's town hall live at 6:15 p.m. eastern. we'll have it right here on msnbc saturday. mean time, developing now, a large explosion in kabul near the nato headquarters. that blast was caused by a suicide car bomb. the explosion has killed se
MSNBC
Aug 15, 2009 10:00am EDT
'm joined live from big sky, montana, chuck todd. good morning again, chuck. >> reporter: good morning, alex. >> let's talk about the president's response. what was it and did it satisfy the crowd? >> well, i think the crowd was satisfied with the answer. what the president did was, he answered specifically on this issue of paying for health care. you know, this is something that's frustrated the white house a bit. that is, from the very beginning, the president said whatever they do with health care, it is not going to add to the deficit. the problem is, you know, the general public is still seeing what government is doing in general, in seeing a big deficit, in seeing a lot of money spent. while it is true that everything they're doing, every plan they've come up will be deficit-neutral when it comes to this thing, it's just not -- that part of it is penetrating the public psyche enough, or what, because that has been something that, when you listen to these protesters and listen to the folks that have come to these town has and been upset, really the core of the upset, of why they're upse
MSNBC
Aug 13, 2009 2:00pm EDT
us about those plans. >> he's got a couple of town halls. one in colorado, one in montana. this is a three or four-day swing out west. montana, colorado and arizona and do some sightseeing with the fo whole family. >> thanks so much. >>> coming up, he was convicted in connection with the 1988 lockerbie bombing and now, he might be set free because he's sick. but how sick is he and does it matter? >>> plus, it was only a few months that anything obama sold like hot cakes. now, there's an up tick in antiobama gear. >>> and you've seen the ads. sell your gold for cash now. but should you? you're watching "it's the economy" on msnbc. i was in the grocery store when i had a heart attack. my daughter was with me. i took a bayer aspirin out of my purse and chewed it. my doctor said the bayer aspirin saved my life. please talk to your doctor about aspirin and your heart. i'm going to be grandma for a long time. have discovered how easy it is to use legalzoom for important legal documents. at legalzoom, we'll help you incorporate your busines file a patent, make a will and more. yo
MSNBC
Aug 11, 2009 4:00pm EDT
, for the administration, it is the first of three events out in montana and colorado later this week, and it's a process that they're trying to again somewhat uphill battle because again they wanted this done by now. they didn't want to have this battle going on in august, but it's still in full swing. david? >> drums on the outside of the town hall. nbc's ron allen. ron, thanks for the report. >>> and by the way, that protester with a gun that we mentioned, his name is william costrick. he will be a guest on "hardball" tonight with chris matthews. it's coming up one hour from now. -n >>> how is the insurance industry responding to attacks from the democrats. today is not the first day the presidents a accused the industry. he once accused insurers of abuses and record profits. nancy pelosi called them, quote, villains. a democratic organization is accusing the insurance industry of, quote, stirring up fear with false rumors. the head of a group that represents insurance companies says democratic lawmakers are not helping their case by vilifying the insurance industry. they say members of congress will
MSNBC
Aug 12, 2009 11:00am EDT
hall meeting. maybe they'll get it in montana, maybe they'll get it in colorado, but i do think they're trying to see if they can just put a period on this whole town hall mess that's going on with members of congress. >> chuck, as we move forward, i want to bring in angela bert-murray who has a question for, my guest co-host. >> town halls have been the president's strength and go to place when ents to get his message out to the people directly but what we're seeing is a lot of debate. how ready is the administration as he heads to montana? how ready is he to face people that aren't his typical fans? people that really are going to disrupt the process? can they handle that? >> well, i think two weeks ago, i would have said no. i think they were caught flat-footed, that the fight over health care had become, to borrow a phrase, i think chris matthews said it first, part of the culture wars. when something gets into the culture war aspect, i'm talking about god, gays and abortion those inflaming passions in the '90s and maybe in the early part of the 21st century, i think that isn't w
MSNBC
Aug 13, 2009 5:00pm EDT
. >> president obama holds yet another town hall tomorrow, so we'll be in montana. it was a state that obama almost was able to win last year. not normally grown as a battleground state but one where he did better than previous democratic presidential contenders. >>> also, protesters and supporters are already heading to montana setting the stage for what could be another rowdy show, particularly outside the town hall venue. >>> and then finally tomorrow is the second day for that net roots nation blogosphere con fab that's going on in pittsburgh. tomorrow's main event is howard dean, who is going to be speaking on, you guessed it, health care. >> and, mark, as you noted, the president out west. how might that factor into the conversation? we know so much is transitioning the way we think. what used to be the midwest, but now people say the west as a barometer of so much. >> tamron, you raise a really interesting thing because obama and democrats have done very, very well out in the western part of the country in 2006, 2008 election cycles, and they're very libertarian, independent streak. i
MSNBC
Aug 16, 2009 2:00pm EDT
, welcome. i want to take you to montana. this is a town hall debate that the president had. listen to randy rathy, what he had to say. >> max baucus, our senator, has been locked up in a dark room there for months now trying to come up with some money to pay for these programs and we keep getting the bull. that's all we get is bull. you can't tell us how you're going to pay for this. you're saving here, you're saving over there. going to take a little money there, take a little money there. you have no money. the only way to get that money is to raise our taxes. you said you wouldn't. max baucus says he doesn't want to put a bill out that will. but that's the only way you can do that. >> congressman, isn't he right? >> i can't believe that -- that our democracy is so fragile that people have no answer to a very serious problem would just try to create animosity and hatred rather than try to sit down and first find out what is the problem, how costly is it and what does it take in order to stop it. there's no question that almost everyone listening to this show have known some horrible story
MSNBC
Aug 19, 2009 8:00pm EDT
in the senate with both parties. the president, again, met with senator bachus on friday in montana and they discussed the progress that was being made among democrats and republicans on the finance committee. that's our focus. >> as we've mentioned on this news hour before the very definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results. speaking of which, fresh town hall insanity. that one health care giant is no longer even bothering to pretend he is astroturf. united health group now directly urging its employees to attendanty reform rallies, mass mailing a letter, and setting up a hotline to direct its own callers, its own people to local events. quoting from the letter, it is critical we as leaders in the health care industry are communicating with our members of congress to ensure that they understand our story and views. isn't that what lobbyists and truck loads worth of campaign donations and bribes are for? outside a town hall event in bozeman, montana democrat max bachus shouted down with chants of no, no, no and getting a little
MSNBC
Aug 13, 2009 6:00pm EDT
dissenting voices at these town hall meetings? when he goats to montana or colorado, or are they going to be orchestrated? we haven't seen anybody get up and challenge the president. >> it's interesting they haven't. i think probably what that shows you is that most people want to engage in a polite, civil discussion. the president got some challenging question when is he was in new hampshire. he asked for people who were skeptics, the public can buy tickets or get -- not buy, but can have access to the tickets to these events, but they're absolutely open to the public. he expects that and wants to answer those questions. so that he could ants the questions himself. >> i thought he did a heck of -- linda douglass thank you for joining us tonight. thank you. >> thanks, ed. >>> coming up on "the ed show," dr. doom and elected official believes the president wants to use a pandemic disease or natural disease as an excuse to declare martial law? stay with us. imodium multi-symptom relief combines two powerful medicines for fast relief of your diarrhea symptoms, so you can get back out ther
MSNBC
Aug 14, 2009 9:00am EDT
has the right plan to fix health care. the president and first lady will arrive in montana a few hours from now. he will hold a town hall just before 3:00 eastern. getting involved in a informed debate. you can watch the president's town hall live from montana right here on msnbc. our coverage set to begin at 2:55 eastern time. he may have one less rumor to deal with. the end-of-life provision, which some argued would end with death panels. here is an interesting note on former governor, sarah palin, who led the charge on criticizing this. it looks as though palin supported end of life while governor. in 2008, governor palin declared a, quote, health care decisions day, which called for more awareness and the need to plan ahead for decisions needed to end a life. nobody knows how that specifically differs from what had been in the health care plan nationally. >> fun death panels. god help us. we know president obama and the drug industry reach add deal on health care reform that involves billions in concessions, and we know the industry will spend $50 million to lobby for the president
MSNBC
Aug 3, 2009 8:00pm EDT
of montana, good evening, senator. so you're supposed to be negotiating all this out with the republicans and the hesitant democrats to gain bipartisanship with a wholly owned subsidiary of the health sector. bipartisanship that will get you what? a total of no votes? and your price has been, let's see, $414,000 in donations from hospitals, $667,000 in donations from insurance companies, just over a million from big pharma, and $237,000 from nursing homes. when you think of getting $237,000 in campaign contributions from nursing homes, senator bachus do you ever think about whether they subtract that amount of money evenly from all the patients suffering and dying in the lousy ones or just from a few of the lousy ones? so much for senator bachus. sadly, this list could go on almost all night, too. i could ask blue dog congressman democrat john tanner, tennessee, if since he has gotten $215,000 from hospitals over the years if i and the appropriate number of my friends were willing to make it $216,000 if we could buy his vote or would there still have to be an auction? we could bring up se
MSNBC
Aug 4, 2009 8:00pm EDT
to campaign in. but in montana, in north dakota, in states like that, that money goes a long, long way. so it's a lot cheaper to buy those senators, and those senators are more than happy to make that money because it sort of frees them from the responsibility or the chore of having to raise money from actual average, regular americans. it's easier to get that $5,000 check or that pac money than it is to ask some regular american for a $20 contribution. >> so what do we do about this now? >> well, i mean, we're going to have to keep fighting the way we're fighting it. it's a propaganda war in a lot of ways. i mean, you have the insurance companies doing these -- these astroturf protests trying to sort of create this impression that this is a broad american mandate against health care reform. we see the polls. we see the numbers. it's obviously not true. americans want reform. they want it desperately. and i think we need to keep talking about it and keep pushing and keep calling and writing legislators and reminding them that they made a campaign promise to support and to reform the system, t
MSNBC
Aug 4, 2009 9:00pm EDT
. yep, mississippi, north dakota, nebraska, kansas, arizona, south carolina and montana. so the recap, five states are republican. 37 states are democratic. and even texas is in play, according to the polling. i wonder why all of the headlines now are about how the democrats are in such big political trouble? [ female announcer ] olay goes beyond everyday clean to a deep micro-clean. olay deep cleansers reach the micro-particles of dirt some basic cleansers can leave behind for a clean so deep its micro-clean. olay deep cleansers. i just want fewer pills and relief that lasts all day. take 2 extra strength tylenol every 4 to 6 hours?!? taking 8 pills a day... and if i take it for 10 days -- that's 80 pills. just 2 aleve can last all day. perfect. choose aleve and you can be taking four times... fewer pills than extra strength tylenol. ju 2 aleve have the strength to relieve arthritis pain all day. when we're in a sandwich you'll know it we are our own mixed up blend of one of a kind spices we are miracle whip and we will not tone it down >>> on november 22nd of the year 2000, weeks af
MSNBC
Aug 4, 2009 11:00pm EDT
, nebraska, kansas, arizona, south carolina and montana. so the recap, five states are republican. 37 states are democratic. and even texas is in play, according to the polling. i wonder why all of the headlines now are about how the democrats are in such big political trouble? this is my verizon small business specialist, tom. now, i know the catering business but when i walked in here i wasn't sure what i needed. i'm not sure what i need. tom showed me how to use mifi to get my whole team working online, on location. i was like, "woah". woah ! only verizon wireless has small business specialists in every store to help you do business better. you're like my secret ingredient. come in today and connect up to five devices on one 3g connection. now only $99.99 you'll love it. your old mop will just have to get over it... [ engine rattles ] [ man ] love stinks! ♪ love stinks! ♪ yeah! yeah! [ female announcer ] new swiffer wet jet is redesigned. it cleans deep in corners. its solution penetrates layers of dirt and its absorbent pad locks it away to clean better than a mop. the newly redesign
MSNBC
Aug 10, 2009 6:00pm EDT
's going to montana. but what's your position this morning in the wake of all this? >> i think the president has the guts and the sense to get his health care plan through. i think he's willing to compromise with congress about it. i don't think he's willing to compromise with heem who stand up and shout at town hall meetings. who are unpleasant, unfair and it's counter productive. if you've ever been at a town hall meeting or a speech or any kind of a meeting where somebody just stands up and starts yelling, that doesn't make you like that person or doesn't convince you of that person's argument. you hate it and you want it to stop. it doesn't do any good. >> do you think it might actually ignite the left grassroots to really get behind the president? it might be a counter-effect here? >> i think there will be a counter-effect. i think it actually might put a little steel in the spine of some congresspeople who are wavering on it. people don't like to stand there and get yelled at by organized hooligans. it doesn't make them feel good. they can read polls, they know how the pe
MSNBC
Aug 12, 2009 1:00pm EDT
to have a more open debate, would you consider, for example, in montana, giving the republican congress -- >> i think the president feels very comfortable with the fact these having a representative discussion despite people's disappointment, that he wasn't yelled at. >> i don't doubt that if you look at the protests that we saw outside of the building yesterday, as a continuum from the t.e.a. parties and controversy over the birth certificate and some of the anger over the gates/crowley episode, i wonder -- >> let me just -- i go in the front door. i -- i don't doubt that but i'm saying -- i didn't see a representative sample the science. >> this is a president who campaigned on the notion that we could get beyond the partisan -- the ugly partisan warfare of the last 60 years. there could be, you know, rational discussion that could bring parties together. and i wonder what happened to that, why did the postpartisan presidency not materialize? >> jonathan, again, i -- i don't know if you were outside or inside, but i think there was a rational discussion about issues not based on ideol
MSNBC
Aug 12, 2009 4:00pm EDT
to montana on friday to hold another town hall. the president will be greeted by protestors, perhaps as many as 500 people are expected at a rally outside of the airport where the president will be holding his town hall. chuck todd is chief white house correspondent on top of the white house strategy and all this. what is the view of the white house? do they feel like they're somehow being able to get their message out or fear they're being drowned out by all the chaos? >> the answer to both questions is yes. that is why you saw the president yesterday at this town hall spend as much time saying what the plan wasn't going to do and what was not in the plan as he did pushing the plan. so, i think they realized they're on two tracks. the actual debate about health care policy is not taking place at town halls. this debate is taking place still in the gang of six with max baucus, bradley, those guys in the senate with congressional democratic leaders. but that isn't what the public is see. now there's a public debate which has morphed into a part of a cult, a red versus blue culture wars. i fee
MSNBC
Aug 13, 2009 1:00pm EDT
to some agreement. >> besides the town hall, tomorrow, what else is he doing in montana? recreationally that you can --? >> i hope we'll be enjoying big sky country, but i don't have anything to announce. >> doing what? hiking? fishing? >> i don't have any announcement on that today. >> any coverage? >> probably not. >> whatever it is -- >> at least i can lead on that side of it. >> whatever it is, we will see it, is that what you are saying? >> robert, i want to follow up on what chuck was asking about senator grassley. so he's the top senator on the senate finance committee. the president has talked to him, the president wants a bipartisan bill, and yet senator grassley came out and said, no public plan option, no way, no how, he won't vote for a bill on it. and yesterday in a chance to clarify this death penalty thing, instead he jumped on it and people -- death panel, sorry. he said people have a right to be afraid of it. so can you still count, seriously, chuck grassley as an ally in getting your health care bill passed? >> i still think there is the possibility of getting bipartis
MSNBC
Aug 13, 2009 4:00pm EDT
obama will be holding two town halls this weekend, one tomorrow in montana and another in colorado saturday. but there's still a few more weeks until congress is back from recess, and there's a lot more time to debate and a lot more opportunities for people to be misinformed. joan walsh is the editor in chief for salon.com. i want to start with senator grassley. he's come out in regards to the comments he made the bipartisan group drop the end of life provision from the proposal even though he brought it up yesterday, he said that people have every right to fear. when you hear signs like david just mentioned, isn't it a great responsibility to make sure you are always stating the facts, especially when you're an elected official? >> yeah, i would agree with you, tamron. and i know grassley is a conservative, but i don't really consider him part of the bomb-throwing fringe, like sarah palin. >> which is part of the shocking nature of this angle of the story. >> right. he knows better. he knows what's in every bill, and he know that is end of life counseling provision does not have a
MSNBC
Aug 16, 2009 8:00am EDT
, didn't quite come up in the montana one. i think he's going to create problems with people who work in the postal service who are worried they're going to have to do a whole bunch of lay-offs and are going to be shutting down a bunch of mini offices. the point is well taken. >> i heard some horrific number in terms of what they're in the hole. in the billions of dollars. >> reporter: absolutely. >> chuck, we'll talk to you again. it's early where you are, like 5:17 in the morning. >> you know, arizona has this weird decision where half the year on pacific time, half the time on -- >> just go get coffee. wherever you are. i'll talk to you next hour. >> fair enough. >>> almost a dozen wildfires continue to rage across california. the most troublesome of those fires is in santa cruz county south of san francisco. the fire there already charring more than ten square miles. michael okwu is live in swanton. you're with us all morning yesterday with talk about the fires. i understand that the firefighters did make some progress in the last 24 hours or so. >> reporter: well, there's definit
MSNBC
Aug 16, 2009 9:00am EDT
she wants to do. she wants to booed en her fan base, get past this disneyesque, hannah montana image. does this bring in more scrutiny from her? how prohibitive can that be? >> i think it's realistic of her to push things. i think last year she pushed things too far with that "vanity fair" photo shoot. within hours of that pole dance, her new song was number one at itunes, has already exceeded the sales of her last hit "the climb." >> we have seen child stars go wild in the past. is she on a different path than they were? who comes to mind? lindsay lohan. even britney to a degree. it was a rough road for a while. >> brid any rebounded. lindsey has not. it's questionable whether lindsey ever will. as miley takes that dangerous path, it may be a one-way trip. >> what do you think about her family? he dad and mom seem to be so over her. when she reaches a certain age, what can they do? >> only a year and a half left in terms of reigning her in. i think obviously they're show business savvy having been there themselves. i think that helps in this case. there's a wonderful bond between th
MSNBC
Aug 16, 2009 10:00am EDT
hampshire, colorado, and montana just to bring these kind of opposition forward. all the passion that on the other side. so obama wanted to match that head-to-head. the problem with obama is he gives these sort of sober assessments. he has a hard time matching the passion of the other side. i think that's why over the weekend we heard him start to talk about his grandmother a little bit, something he hasn't wanted to get into so far, but it is an emotional point. it is very resonant. that's why they're doing that, bring up the passion level. >> what about the health care town hall in colorado. the third one in a week for this president. this morning the president again reinforcing his message. he wrote a loengthy op-ed in th "new york times." if you don't get a chance to get to a town hall meeting, it does make a very strong case for the white house's perspective. get ahold of it, everyone. that said, has the president accomplished what he set out to do this week? >> no, absolutely not, alex. they're on the defensive. they're struggling. they wasted so much time answering this de
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